Monday, June 23, 2014

Counting Cards at the Draft – CHL Defencemen

This is the fifth installment of this series, if you are new to the series and would like to catch up you can read them here: part 1-NCAA, part 2- USHS, part 3- USHL, and part 4- US U-18.

We know from the great work done by Rhys of “That’s Offside” that CHL defencemen picked in the first three rounds tend to be successful NHL players if they score at a 0.6 point per game rate in junior. I decided to take this one step further and see if this theory holds true for players picked in the fourth round and on. I hypothesize that the 0.6 will hold up through rounds 4+. I expect there to be very few successes, with the majority of players being in the bottom left of the graph. This is because the CHL is the most heavily scouted league and any player who is any good is most likely gone by the fourth round.  Here is the first graph:


Right away it appears that the 0.6 estimate does not hold up as numerous players hovered around the x-axis (0%) at or above 0.6ppg. Despite that I am still going to use 0.6 as the baseline just to see what type of results it generates.


As expected the vast majority of players did fall into the bottom left portion of the graph. I would expect that the five players in the top right of the graph are ones who had down years their draft season causing their stock to drop. I expect these players posted excellent age 19 and/or age 20 seasons. What really stands out in this graph is the 24 players who scored above 0.6 but never amounted to anything in the NHL.

How they Missed

In researching the 24 players, a very interesting trend emerged which explains why that number was so large. Of the 24 players 17 of them were drafted as over-agers, i.e. not in their first draft eligible season. That leaves us with only seven players left to examine.
-Mark Barberio (152nd overall, 2008) and David Savard (94th overall, 2009), both are young enough at 24 and 23 respectively, to still be establishing themselves at the NHL level.
-Jonathan Zion (110th overall, 1999) and Cole Jarret (141st, 2001), both struggled in the AHL and jumped to Europe.
-Logan Pyett (212th overall, 2006)  and Raymond Macias (124th overall, 2005) also struggled in the AHL.
-Simon Lacriox (196th overall, 2007) never signed and went to the University of Moncton when CHL career was over.

How they Made it

-Kyle Quincey (132nd overall, 2003) and T.J. Brodie (114th overall, 2008) both fall into the category of having a down season. Both were able to improve their scoring above 0.6 in their age 19 and 20 seasons.
-Milan Jurcina (241st overall, 2001) and Marc Methot (168th overall 2003) are the two exceptions as they never scored at any point in their CHL careers. Both players were big and likely made it due to their physical play.

James Wisniewski also falls under this category but really should be counted as a success as he put up 0.58 ppg in his draft season and surged to over a point per game the following season. 

2014 Draft Eligible CHL Defensemen as per Central Scouting’s final ranking.
Player
Rank
GP
Goals
Assists
Points
PPG
Aaron Ekblad
2
58
23
30
53
          0.91
Haydn Fleury
9
70
8
38
46
          0.66
Julius Honka
11
62
16
40
56
          0.90
Anthony Deangelo
14
51
15
56
71
          1.39
Brycen Martin
26
72
6
31
37
          0.51
Roland McKeown
27
62
11
32
43
          0.69
Brett Lernout
52
72
8
14
22
          0.31
Travis Sanheim
53
67
5
24
29
          0.43
Aaron Haydon
54
61
5
11
16
          0.26
Blake Siebenaler
55
68
6
24
30
          0.44
Alex Peters
56
50
3
6
9
          0.18
Kyle Jenkins
69
63
7
18
25
          0.40
Ryan Rehill
76
72
4
16
20
          0.28
Dysin Mayo
82
63
7
28
35
          0.56
Rinat Valiev*
83
55
5
23
28
          0.51
Ben Thomas
86
73
7
24
31
          0.42
Aaron Irving
90
63
9
21
30
          0.48
Nelson Nogier
93
37
1
5
6
          0.16
Riley Stadel
99
63
10
25
35
          0.56
Daniel Walcott*
102
67
10
29
39
          0.58
Dallas Valentine
105
69
3
11
14
          0.20
Josh Wesley
111
68
2
7
9
          0.13
Alexis Vanier
112
61
15
21
36
          0.59
Santino Centorame
113
61
3
15
18
          0.30
Stefan Leblanc
123
64
5
23
28
          0.44
Stephen Desrocher
125
43
4
4
8
          0.19
Olivier Leblanc
126
56
7
26
33
          0.59
Sam Ruopp
127
64
5
11
16
          0.25
Matthew Murphy*
128
64
10
26
36
          0.56
Yannick Rathgeb
129
57
7
14
21
          0.37
Colton Bobyk
130
56
5
7
12
          0.21
Patrick Sanvido
140
64
1
7
8
          0.13
Josh Thrower
148
62
2
4
6
          0.10
Cody Donaghey
150
67
9
29
38
          0.57
Alexey Sleptsov
151
66
4
21
25
          0.38
Jacob Middleton
172
65
2
21
23
          0.35
Brandon Prophet
174
65
2
17
19
          0.29
Kevin Laliberte
175
67
0
13
13
          0.19
Frank Hora
176
65
1
19
20
          0.31
Kayle Doetzel *
178
70
2
10
12
          0.17
Sergei Boikov
183
68
2
10
12
          0.18
Alex Lintuniemi
187
68
4
17
21
          0.31
Kyle Wood
191
33
2
10
12
          0.36
Alexander Mikulovich
192
57
7
7
14
          0.25
Edson Harlacher
196
71
0
9
9
          0.13
Phil Baltisberger
197
57
1
14
15
          0.26
Daniel De Sousa
204
39
2
11
13
          0.33
Tanner Faith
211
10
0
1
1
          0.10
*not first time draft eligible

I understand that the list is very long which is why I bolded the players who I think have the best chance to become NHL regulars. The first four player are obvious and don’t require much explanation. These are the elite defencemen of this draft class and all should be first round picks. The players who I am more interested in are the ones further down the list who are just hovering slightly below the 0.6 ppg. Dysin Mayo, Riley Stadel, Alexis Vanier, Olivier Leblanc and Cody Donaghey all are currently projected to go after the third round of the draft. These are players I would gamble on as they are close enough to 0.6 and likely are to come at a very cheap draft pick cost. I am looking forward to following these players next season to see who improves and becomes a draft day steal. The remaining players on this list should likely be avoided unless scouts believe there is room to grow offensively.

It’s clear from this study that 0.6ppg continues to be a good proxy for predicting NHL success of CHL defencemen. The issue to watch for as you get into the later stages of the draft are overage players who post gaudy stat lines while being older than their peers. These players had a very high bust rate and should be avoided on draft day. This study also supports highly rated players like Aaron Ekblad and Haydon Fleury and identifies some potential late round sleepers in Dysin Mayo and Cody Donaghey. This completes the major North American leagues in which players are drafted out of. Up next I will have a ranking of all the North American defencemen using the data from these studies.


If you have any questions about this post or any of the other ones don’t hesitate to ask in the comments. 

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